[Cosmo-torun] MG11 - Topology of the Universe (fwd) (and PDS - how many tiles?)
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Pon, 6 Lut 2006, 16:58:25 CET
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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2006 15:02:38 +0100 (CET)
> From: Marek Demianski
> Subject: MG11 - Topology of the Universe
> Dear Colleague,
> I have been asked to organize a parallel session on "Topology of the
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> Marek Demianski
BTW: i have a question on PDS (Poincare Dodecahedral Space) intuition
which someone might be able to answer.
A tiling of S^3 by the PDS has 120 copies of the PDS.
If we think of this tiling starting from "here" at the "North Pole"
(sorry Marcelo, this is North bias ;) (image 1) and we "stick" a copy
(image 2) of the PDS next to itself along a North-Pole-South-Pole axis
(e.g. X), and then moving along the X axis, we stick another copy (image 3) next
to image 2, and then another and so on, then it seems to me that image 6
covers the "South Pole" and is the "antipode" copy of image 1.
In other words, the "distance" between the poles is 5 copies of the FD.
This allows an easy order of magnitude check on the total number of copies,
since the "radius" of one hemi-hypersphere is 2.5 "copies", so that the
total volume is roughly (using flat space arithmetic):
2* (4\pi/3) (2.5)^3 \sim 2* 2^2 * (5/2)^3 = 5^3 = 125
which is a good approximation to 120.
(AFAIR, Jeff Weeks showed me how to do this - this is not original.)
Now for my question:
We have 6 "layers":
North pole - 1 FD
layer 2 - 12 FD's
layer 3 - n FD's
layer 4 - n FD's
layer 5 - 12 FD's
South pole - 1
Clearly layer 3 or 4 has more than 12 copies, there are some spaces that
need to be filled.
But the value required for the total to be 120, i.e. n= 47, is an odd
number. Intuition says that everything should be even and symmetric.
Can someone give a nice intuitive explanation for why n is odd and why
this 12-symmetry is broken? Maybe a nice diagram?
In fact, i have a partial answer: it seems to me there are some in-between
layers, which we might call 2.5 and 4.5 and i guess also 3.5. But it's
difficult for me to imagine them, and it's still difficult for me to imagine
how the 12-symmetry is broken.
It would be nice if someone had a nice diagram or intuitive
explanation of how the 12-symmetry is broken.
Going to a 122 tiling would save the tiling symmetry, but intuition says
that 120 is better than 122.
On the other hand, 2 * (1 + 12 + 48) = 122 seems simpler in terms of
In the Nature paper, 120 is quoted:
(After all, we *have* made a few minor mistakes in the past in our
subject - e.g. when we said that there were uncountably many
negatively curved 3-manifolds, and eventually, at MG IX (?), Jeff
explained and showed us that the number was countably infinite - the
classification is complicated and unfinished, but the number is
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