hi everyone, i've tried to come up with a proposal compatible with the summary here: http://cosmo.torun.pl/pipermail/cosmo-torun/2006-February/000353.html and Andrzej's suggestion here: http://cosmo.torun.pl/pipermail/cosmo-torun/2006-February/000354.html The proposed text is between ######### - i'm not sure if Bartek or Andrzej want to sign, or even if this is compatible with Andrzej's arguments, though i think it should be, because all the material is protected (well, open) under GFDL copyright, but it's not especially linked to any of our names - there are typically anywhere between 5 and 100 authors on the wikipedia page articles. The LambdaCDM article presently says nothing about "bringing down the concept of flat and infinite universe" - which IMHO is rather premature anyway - IMHO that wikipedia page would be a good place to discuss that - in the wikipedia context - *if* anyone really wants to have a "public, pedagogical" debate. The response to 4. also gives a response to Bartek's worry about the earlier Levin paper (lacking high resolution). What do people think of this proposed response (v0.2)? pozdr boud PROPOSAL version 0.2 ###################################################################### Dear Tomasz, Answers to your questions are publicly available in research papers and in pedagogical (encyclopedia level) material as below. Boud Roukema, Bartosz Lew
1. Analysis of the microwave background radiation are the only way - I guess - to collect information about the shape of the universe. Isn't it risky to draw conclusions resulting from only one experiment ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_method#Evaluations_and_iterations
2. Why this is commonly believed, that data from WMAP probe, brought down the concept of flat and infinite universe ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lambda-CDM_model
3. There are many ideas concerning the shape of the universe. Maybe it is like a sphere, cylinder, funnel, but it can also be like bell, horn or dodecahedron. Why do you claim that space is dodecahedron-like ?
http://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ksztalt_Wszechswiata
4. What are the errors or defects of the idea of horn-like space ?
http://arxiv.org/abs/astro-ph/0403597
5. Could you in the very easy way explain the expression, that space has a shape ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shape_of_the_Universe
6. Do efforts to establish a shape of the universe have any practical meaning or you are doing that just to know ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fundamental_science
7. Did universe have a beginning, and ones will have the end ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_fate_of_the_universe ######################################################################